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Post by User 180565 is taking donation on Nov 11, 2012 9:16:41 GMT -8
Wow. I feel awkward now. >_> Welcome to ProBoards.
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Post by Boom on Nov 11, 2012 9:58:48 GMT -8
About the whole Gays having a different name to their marriage. Honestly, I'm sure they wouldn't care as long as it allowed them the same rights as a married couple has. They're not fighting for the name they're fighting for the rights that come along with being married. Not that it should matter either way the name and all because marriage isn't just among religious people.
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Post by daniel on Nov 11, 2012 10:14:45 GMT -8
Time travel to 1950- why do some people have to sit in the back of the bus or stand? We're all on the bus, so why do they care about the difference?
It's an important lesson that people learn that, sometimes, they're on the wrong side of history.
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Post by Cutthroat Bill on Nov 11, 2012 11:01:53 GMT -8
It is an exaggeration, Bill. Straight up. The only sarcastic part was when I said that I agreed with her. Everything else I said is what her posts logically imply, and they are not exaggerated.
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Post by Hero on Nov 11, 2012 12:37:03 GMT -8
Rich people are rich because they worked hard Paris Hilton says hi.
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Post by Inter{n}ational on Nov 11, 2012 12:39:44 GMT -8
***SOME rich people are rich because they worked hard.
And some just inherit it and do nothing.
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Post by alexx on Nov 11, 2012 13:08:06 GMT -8
Rich people are rich because they worked hard Paris Hilton says hi. This guy beat you to it [ And miners too... what a bunch of lazies .. I have no idea why they don't work as much as Paris Hilton
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Post by Hero on Nov 11, 2012 13:09:12 GMT -8
This guy beat you to it [ And miners too... what a bunch of lazies .. I have no idea why they don't work as much as Paris HiltonI am not a smart man.
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Post by Tumbleweed on Nov 12, 2012 2:06:00 GMT -8
I'm just saying you can't just round up people who call themselves Christians without knowing more detail. The same you'd do for any study. Sure you can.. if someone says they are a Christian they are Christian. The same way if you look a person skin and determine they are green There is no certificate for that. A priest is no more a Christian than you. You believe in God- Christian, In Allah - Muslim in Xenu - scientologist, nobody - atheist. That is why when I debate the very bad things Christians do I am told that they are not real Christians, but when Christians do good things it's because of God. If something can't be explained - God, if some are explained - how God does it You pick and choose the things and suit you and discard those that don't The "prove to me god doesn't exist" was an example of things conservatives asked me to do.. the impossible tasks I mentioned earlier. And when I asked them to prove to them Zeus doesn't exist they told me we just know it.. so proof enough Like your "how %Christian were they" or show me a statistic of gay parents when gay parents aren't allowed to adopt in many states (USA) and the world (like my country, a bunch of overzealous Christians) I am serious about this: the only reason atheists are allowed to get married it's because Christians can't prove we aren't Christians. If there was a way to 100% determine who is atheist i am sure atheists like me would have have similar problems as gay people when it comes to marriage For that reason alone (the uncertainty that we are or aren't atheist) we are incredibly luckier than most minorities I told you that work hard = 1% it's a lie. You said no it's based on the truth and I showed you with examples why it's a fallacy... if you believe it or not that's another story The thing is you still buy it.. the 1% are mocking you belittle you and not only you accept it but embrace it... you are the only country in the world like that I'm sorry, I know a few people responded to my post about different things I said but I'm only addressing Alexx, since he was the first one to respond. I don't have the time or even the inclination to try to defend myself to more than one person at a time. But I did read all your replies and will ponder them. Alexx, if I produced a study without a solid methodology you'd be all over me saying idiots did this study. For example, lets say they call people up just asking two questions: Do you consider your self a christian? Let's say their answer is yes. Have you ever been divorced? Again, answer yes. O.K. That's 1 christian who was divorced. But what if the person who answered those two questions had recently became a Christian or never took religion seriously until recently and the divorce happened prior. See what I mean. Seriously, there are most certainly good and bad Christians. I don't even know how you can say that. If that is true then there aren't any good and bad atheists. There aren't any good and bad Muslims, such as terrorists, etc. I have never heard a Christian say an atheist should not be married. Not ever. In fact, I never even thought about it and I could care less if they are married. Your choice of religion doesn't change the meaning of the word. It is still between a man and a woman assuming the atheists are man/woman. Being gay, according to the bible is wrong, sin is wrong, I sin and it is wrong, but that isn't the whole of it. I just feel marriage is reserved for a man and woman. I mean we have names for everything. Why does it HAVE to be called a "marriage" between gays or lesbians? I mean two teens are called teens but the elderly aren't called teens. We have words that have meaning. Now this deal with the 1%. For one thing, the 1% haven't told me anything and I don't even think I referred to them at all in my post. Are you saying you think everyone should just get equal pay no matter what they do? I mean the Wall Street Banker very likely went to college for 4 or 5 years getting a masters degree and no doubt started at some not so great jobs and eventually worked his way up. He should get the same pay as the coal miner who very likely has no college. If there isn't any initiative to do better, most people won't. That Wall Street Banker probably has incentives to make money for the bank and thus is rewarded when he does well. People are rewarded, usually, for doing a good job. If he wouldn't be rewarded, would he even bother? Sure, you may do the mandatory things they expect you to do but to go above and beyond? I doubt it. People get paid according to the demand of their talent. No I may never reach the 1% but I certainly have no hard feelings toward those that do. In fact, I applaud them. I have no idea how becoming rich has become a dirty word. I just can't wrap my brain around the hate toward the rich.
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Post by Kami on Nov 12, 2012 2:20:09 GMT -8
Welp, I voted for Obama. :] Considering I am basically everything the GOP seems to oppose (queer/female-bodied/minority/poor person/non-Christian), I didn't feel it was in my best interest to vote GOP this year.
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Post by alexx on Nov 12, 2012 2:34:25 GMT -8
I won't the text you since it will create one big sausage And again with the real Christians stuff. Stop it. Belief in god= Christian, that is all. Same way how white skin = part of white population If they made a study comparing white divorce rates to black ones would you be asking for more details? Maybe the white guys weren't so white, maybe they were 1/4th black. That family wasn't black they were just a white couple with a tanning obsession You are pretending that in order to be Christian you need a qualification. If you say you are a Christian you are a Christian. Anyway I am sorry I don't trust Christians that say they will listen to the scientific method. Maybe you are not like others but most Christian agree with the science when it suits them. Dinosaurs are there to fool us, carbon dating is wrong etc Solid methodology doesn't exist because you will always find flaws in them. You know that Christians have lower divorce rates so when presented with something else you create different standards My biggest example is Global Warming. I don't get what's with Christians and denying GW but fine. Or if you persoanlly believe it to be man made The science is good but most you them say lalalalalalalalala when presented with the science
How is being atheist not worse than being gay? Ok being gay is a sin then what the hell is not believing a bigger sin? How is not worse? Marriage is a covenant between one man and one woman and between the participants and God (Malachi. 2:14-16)
To repeat myself... I hate the work hard = rich fallacy It is a big lie I didn't say all jobs should be rewarded equally. Just stop pretending that rich people are rich just because they worked hard It's so rigged in favor of the rich it's tragic Sure saying well go to college and then do that but for some people that is impossible even if they are brilliant. Rich spoiled brats can get more easily into college and won't have a problem to pay for it while the guys and gals they are competing with them have to pay back the loans And then after all it's done they say to the above guy/gal or people who had no choice to stay home or couldn't afford a better college "well you should have worked harder" What can I say country of all opportunities Also it's bad taste to claim Romney did it without his father helpThe sad part is that countries really reward people that work hard, where students can actually rise Americans call socialist BTW I am rich... more exactly my family is
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Post by Matej on Nov 12, 2012 3:30:12 GMT -8
Tumbleweed, please read my response as to why the wording is important. It's not about taking a religious right. In fact, the word marriage existed before Christianity, so, perhaps you shouldn't be using it then? And also, just because YOUR bible says it's wrong, is it ok for you to impose your morals on others?
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Post by Graham on Nov 12, 2012 4:52:29 GMT -8
I mean we have names for everything. Why does it HAVE to be called a "marriage" between gays or lesbians? I mean two teens are called teens but the elderly aren't called teens. We have words that have meaning. Don't forget that words can have more than one meaning or interpretation. It isn't as simple as black and white.
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Post by Cutthroat Bill on Nov 12, 2012 5:06:38 GMT -8
I object to the idea that Christians own marriage. They don't. It's not down to you what people can do in a secular state. If Jews can marry, if Muslims can marry, if atheists can marry then you. have. no. say. on what marriage means.
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Post by Liverpool on Nov 12, 2012 8:22:57 GMT -8
I object to the idea that Christians own marriage. They don't. It's not down to you what people can do in a secular state. If Jews can marry, if Muslims can marry, if atheists can marry then you. have. no. say. on what marriage means. And how about abortions? So other religions believe that Abortion is right then WHY if you think gay marriage is a sin?
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