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Post by Kami on Jul 15, 2017 9:15:45 GMT -8
Im sure this was a typo but Photoshop has nothing to do with this topic, for anyone reading this thread and getting confused But I don't think ProBoards cares one way or another what method we use to host our images; they provide us with theme image space for convenience and ease of use, but there's no rule that says we can't host our images elsewhere (and for non-theme images, we do). What it boils down to is habit I think; in v4, all we had was a very simple colour editor + the headers & footers. No theme upload, and just one set of H/F for all of your skins (as they were called then). Folks who got in during v4, 4.5 (2005-2011 or so...?) by and large habitually host their images elsewhere. I don't exclude myself from that either, it's just I had/have my own hosting for quite some time now, and back in the day my forum had too much traffic for me to use Photobucket (in the mid 2000s they had a bandwidth cap monthly). I've since made the switch to uploading my theme images to PB, which honestly as a theme designer is really convenient especially since each custom image generates a variable you can use in your templates And also like I said before, the logistics of this is enormous. They'll need more servers, more employees, more time, more development and QA. At the bare minimum they'll need to hire people with experience managing an image host. It may be a simple idea for you, pay and receive, but development of such a project can take months or years and a lot of time and resources and money. It's up to hem, of course, whether or not to pursue it, but splitting their resources and staff between their established market and a new venture is not just a matter of reassurance. The payoff has to be enough, and it seems from admin response (tho obv I'm not staff so this is just a guess) that they'd rather stick to being a (great!) forum host.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jul 15, 2017 12:23:39 GMT -8
i know buddy, that's what i'm saying i'v had no problem with it for some weird reason, maybe imgur was just a threat. Definitely, not a just a threat ~
Did you read their ToS? It's the same as P'Bucket.
imgur.com/tos
There was a thread here on support when Imgur changed their ToS more than a year ago.
support.proboards.com/thread/573055/use-imgur-image-hosting-read
Moving forward, I'm hosting all images for my themes, the forum, and plugins in the Custom Images in ProBoards' storage.
It's the far better alternative. I don't want to go through this ever again.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jul 15, 2017 15:59:20 GMT -8
Good for you, Jaguar . P'Bucket may have knocked us down . . . but they sure as heck won't keep us down.
I'm just so happy and grateful for ProBoards' storage for ProBoards' images.
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Post by RichardInTN on Jul 15, 2017 18:01:15 GMT -8
EACH THEME - Max size per image 1MB, with each theme having a max of 500 images. And to purchase more theme space click on INCREASE STORAGE and an additional 100 MB is only $10.00 us funds, which is a bargain IMHO. That will not increase the 1MB / 500 images at all. There's smaller amounts, 100 MB is the largest. trying to decide if I can store my extra smilies for dropdown smilies plugin. I have 100 smilies for the plugin. I just want to do it once and be done. Right now it's on tinypic I have something like 220 smilies hosted inside one ProBoards hosted theme that I use with the dropdown smilies plugin. The system isn't even breathing hard.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jul 19, 2017 14:47:19 GMT -8
Also, be sure to check out my thread here for blocking P'Bucket's images site-wise.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jul 24, 2017 14:07:58 GMT -8
Trying to fix the problem isn't long term. Unless you pay $399/annually, it's now against Photobucket's ToS to place their linked images on third party sites.
So unless one intends to pay the annual $399, it's simply best to find another image host that allows (at least currently) putting images on third party sites. But the sad truth is, any of those can change their ToS at at time, just as Flickr, Imgur and now Photobucket has.
There's no easy/fast solution to this. Hard work is involved moving and re-hosting images on a site that allows same, but it's got to be done. Unless one is going to pay Photobucket the $399 annual fee.
But it's best to use ProBoards' storage for ProBoards' images that make up your themes, plugins and board images. That's a far more permanent solution.
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Post by hotwire on Jul 24, 2017 23:46:25 GMT -8
The way to correct posts is to use the principle of the js I published to reroute the image request to your own proxy with the image rehosted on your own storage. Fixphotobucket.com rehosted the image to an AWS instance for example so when it is requested from them again it won't be requested from PB servers. This is ultimately the only approach that will unknit your images from PB in the medium to long term. I suspect you'll be on your own doing this too as there is little to no commercial model that will work for someone to make this available. Although the fixphotobucket guy is working on something I think.
The images I'm trying to salvage from the >2 million posts on my particular forum are from users accounts not my own, PB has been trash since the day it launched it is surprising to me that so many people used it. You get what you pay for I guess.
I agree though that if you have a small forum Proboards image stuff is the best place for you. I have written my own image uploader that stores in Azure for my site after finding that imgur's ToS were not dissimilar to Photobucket.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jul 25, 2017 1:26:18 GMT -8
From what I've seen on the FixPhotobucket site, he's been barred from retrieving images from Photobucket and converting them.
So all that's left on the site is just a message with a new hosting site recommendation. And that will require the straightforward way of doing things. Re-hosting all images to the new site, manually ~ like we've all been doing.
Having a work around that still relies on retrieving link urls from Photobucket and then patching together a fix is tenuous.
The images we're recommending being hosted on ProBoards' storage are images for themes, plugins and boards. Definitely not user content. That's not what ProBoards' storage is designated for.
I don't believe the majority of us have the intention of fixing individual posts with user images MIA.
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Post by hotwire on Jul 25, 2017 1:34:53 GMT -8
I think the majority of us have no intention of fixing individual posts with user images MIA. The loss of information here makes me furious, not with you or people running forums obviously. How many useful and compelling threads are going to be destroyed by this? Thousands of hours of work. So much waste, all because PB can't work out a moneymaking model over the past fourteen years. Ah interesting to see fixphotobucket has been taken out of action, I was unaware as I'd not been using it. *edit* just to add, I was never advocating this 'fix' for on board images it never really occurred to me that people would host that stuff in PB, theme graphics make sense in proboards storage, or if you have more than one site that uses them your own hosting is the right place.
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Post by Jaguar on Jul 25, 2017 8:03:18 GMT -8
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jul 25, 2017 11:59:58 GMT -8
Am having this same issue with photobucket and my site just died cause of it what can i do to fix this You'll need to rehost the images on another site. And some of those sites are in the link Jaguar posted.
Just be sure to read their ToS. Flickr, Imgur and now Photobucket don't allow images to be used on third party sites ~ with Photobucket allowing it only if you pay $399/yearly.
After your images are re-hosted, you'll need to remove your Photobucket links and replace them with the link from your new hosting site.
However, images for your board itself, the plugins and themes can be stored on ProBoards ~ which is the best way to go.
If you need further help, you'll need to post on the Support Board.
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Post by hotwire on Jul 25, 2017 23:52:48 GMT -8
Just be sure to read their ToS. Flickr, Imgur and now Photobucket don't allow images to be used on third party sites ~ with Photobucket allowing it only if you pay $399/yearly. It is worth noting that in the case of in message images (sharing your artwork or photos for a DIY tutorial or whatever) then Flickr is a reasonable choice, as stated in their Guidelines: " Link back to Flickr when you post your Flickr content elsewhere.
Flickr makes it possible to post content hosted on Flickr to other web sites. Pages on other web sites that display content hosted on flickr.com must provide a link from each photo or video back to its page on Flickr. This provides a way to get more information about the content and the photographer." " However they don't want you using it for hosting Icons, avatars etc.Don't use your account to host web graphics or as a replacement for a content distribution network. If we find you using your account to host generic graphic elements of web page designs, logos, banners, icons, and other non-photographic elements on other web sites, or if you show suspicious upload behavior that impacts the stability of our servers, we will warn you or delete your account." I guessing suspicious upload activity is if you link up an image uploader for your site to it, rather than relying on users to upload their own stuff. The Imgur ToS says : "Also, don't use Imgur to host image libraries you link to from elsewhere, content for your website, advertising, avatars, or anything else that turns us into your content delivery network." I had written and been using an uploader to imgur, however I found that given the wording it would have been considered an image library that I linked to from elsewhere and nothing more. I could have done some work on the uploader with their API to make it an actual public gallery with tags etc. which I think would have been acceptable to them, but it was still all a bit to ambiguous to me, so I ditched it and wrote my own image service for Azure. So yeah if users want to share images/photos/drawings etc. that they created, Flickr is a good choice still. Theme stuff as you rightly say should be hosted on proboards/their own hosting.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jul 26, 2017 0:24:53 GMT -8
Yes, Imgur's ToS and Flickr's have been quoted often here. In fact, it's on page 1 of this thread.
And there's a Support thread when Imgur pulled the plug on using their site for content delivery.
support.proboards.com/thread/573055/use-imgur-image-hosting-read
Since most of us are admins here and have our forums wrecked by Photobucket, not merely in posts, but more importantly in forum design, most are looking for hosts that allow third party hosting for content delivery ~ if they choose not to use ProBoards' storage for same.
Posts are not the major concern. One only has to look here on Support and see the posts/threads that have been permanently maimed when these types of things happen.
Many are posting with PhotoBucket's horrid image replacement in their avatars and signatures ~ not even attempting to remove it. Forum members will do what they choose to do regarding their posts. Admins must worry about forum function, design and look.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jul 26, 2017 1:39:17 GMT -8
That's simply not possible. Besides themes, forums have plugins with hundreds of images hosted by Photobucket. So once those images have broken, they've broken.
It's not anything to debate about. The scale is massive. Most of us are not looking to find a way to fix posts and user content.
This Support forum itself has millions of images lost because of user content throughout the years ProBoards has been online. That's the nature of the beast. ProBoards didn't and isn't looking for a way to put them back in place. Members have posted selfies; they've posted photographs. Yet, they're no longer here. Instead, it's merely an empty space where once stood a moment in time.
This is no different than GeoCities shutting down in 2009. When Yahoo announced that decision, it was as dreaded as Photobucket's. The same with Angelfire and Tripod. Before GeoCities finally died, there was a similar period where pages with hot-linked images hosted on Angelfire and Tripod lost their images while the pages themselves still existed. In an instant, millions of images and sites were wiped off the internet.
You can't stop a rolling stone. You simply choose another path that is out of its way, pick up the pieces and go on.
This thread is not about finding a workaround for getting Photobucket's images to show up again through codes. It's about finding new sites to legally host third party images.
And admin after admin has successfully done that and are no longer worried about if/when Photobucket deletes their content. They've already moved past that and are up and running again. And I might add, looking as good, if not better, than they did before Photobucket pulled the rug out from under them.
It is absolutely sad to lose so much internet history. There is no doubt about that. But,unfortunately, that's unavoidable. When it happened with Yahoo's GeoCities, it felt like the world was ending for many, many millions. And here we are, 8 years later, with history repeating itself with Photobucket.
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Post by Scott on Jul 26, 2017 12:38:45 GMT -8
Photobucket: What To Do - (Thread Summary)So if you are reading this thread then you have seen this Photobucket image, as shown here on the right, somewhere on a ProBoards forum.What this is:This is a Photobucket generated image that appears in place of an image that has been hosted with the Photobucket service and 3rd-party hosted (embedded with an <img> or [img] tag) in some fashion on a forum. This "replacement image" is a result of Photobucket's recent changes in their 3rd party hosting policies. In short, if their user does not have the plan that allows linking or embedding, then display of a user's images are suspended (replaced with this generic image). What this is NOT:The image above is NOT an advertisement. The image above is NOT placed on the forums by ProBoards. ProBoards has nothing to do with the display of the Photobucket 3rd party hosting image, no more than you can control what advertisements appear on your television. How do I make the Photobucket generate image(s) go away:1) You can suppress them, but please note suppressing the image does not remove the Photobucket link nor restore the missing original images and may be more of a stopgap measure than a permanent fix. - You can use the censored word function (Admin > Security > Censored Words) enter photobucket.com for the censored word and leave the replacement word field blank. (This solution works for both the desktop and mobile viewing versions.)
OR - Add this code to your Global Header:
<style> img[src*="photobucket.com"] {display: none;} </style>
2) Where possible you should replace the Photobucket link(s) with updated links - this is preferred course of action to restore your forum to as close a state it was in prior to the Photobucket changes and involves hosting your images elsewhere. Finding a new hosting service:Our Help Guide article, External Resources, has a list of image hosting services. Some of the services listed are free and some offer embedding as part of a paid plan. It is your responsibility to review and choose the service that best meets your needs. ProBoards and Image Storage:ProBoards forums offer three different methods of storing forum images: Attachments, Forum Defaults, and Themes. Attachments:1) Forums have an attachment system for members to attach images (or files) to posts. Forum admins dictate whether this feature is available to their members to use or not, as well as setting limits of use. Once the current storage limit for the forum is reached, there is the option to increase the available storage limit for a monthly fee. Forum Defaults:2) There are areas of the forum where default images can be either directly uploaded (stored with ProBoards) or linked to your image host service: - Member Profile Avatar (Profile > Edit Profile > Avatar)
- Forum Banner Image (Admin > Themes > Colors & Theme Creator)
- Forum Background Image (Admin > Themes > Colors & Theme Creator)
- Forum Avatars (Admin > Members > Forum Avatars)
- Favicon (Admin > Settings > Forum Settings)
- Social Media Icon (Admin > Settings >Forum Settings > Social Media)
- Forum Directory Thumbnail (Admin > Settings > Forum Settings > Directory)
Themes:3) The following areas have images that are specific to the theme. Images used in these areas can be either directly uploaded (stored with ProBoards) or linked to your image host service: - Forum Logo
- Default Theme Avatar
- Thread Icons
- Forum Icons
- Group & Rank Stars
- Smilies
- Wysiwyg / BBCode Buttons
- Custom Images - OK uses:
- Site build images on Custom Pages
- Site build images in Layout Templates
- Site build images in Headers/Footers
- Replacement images for plugins
[/ul] Theme Images Tip:If you have multiple themes with custom theme specific images for Thread and/or Forum Icons, but want to use the same set of Smilies and/or Group & Rank Star images across all themes there is an easy way to copy them from one theme to another. Example, load all your custom smilies in theme A. Then within that theme, on the Images tab, click the 'Export' button next to Template Options. Next tic the 'Smilies' option and the choose the theme you wish to export the images to and click the Export Images button. Your smilies from the current theme will then be copied into the smilies section of the receiving theme. Please note any exisiting custom smilies in the receiving theme will be overwritten. Note on Plugins:If a plugin you are using is displaying the Photobucket replacement image, check the plugin settings or other available tabs (Admin > Plugins > Manage > 'click on plugin name'). Quite often there you will find an editable field where an existing link to a Photobucket image can be replaced with a link to your own image hosted elsewhere. [/div] TO-DO Tips:Tip: For any image host service (including uploads to ProBoards), please attempt to upload images as close to their intended size as possible and not rely on CSS to resize the image. This smiley image (left) at 32x32 pixels is 3KB in size, where it's original (right) is 600x600 pixels and 359KB in size. That is a whopping increase in size of 11,966% and thus uses that much more bandwidth every time it is displayed. If you multiply this by 50 custom smilies x the the number of users x the number of times the smilies are used, then it's no wonder image hosting services are losing money. This is just overkill and wasting bandwidth. Tip: Keep a copy of all your images on a local hard drive/backup drive. Do not rely on an image host service to store all your images without at least keeping a copy offline. NOT To-Do Tips:And finally what you should not do: Do NOT hotlink (embed) images from other sites not specifically designed for content distribution. This means do not link to images displayed on Facebook, WordPress, blogs, etc. Doing so is basically stealing their bandwidth and most have policies that if discovered your account with them will be terminated without question. Do NOT use a link (or embed) any image uploaded to ProBoards on any non-ProBoards site or for any use within ProBoards to which the uploaded image is not intended. Doing so will result in an automatic deletion of your forum and/or also banning of your account. Please do not abuse our service or the services offered by others.
This thread is now closed. After 20+ pages I believe the topic has been well discussed from pretty much every angle. If you have any issues with the Photobucket replacement image still appearing on your forum, please create a thread on support for your issue and include a link to and/or screenshot of where you are seeing the Photobucket image. (Please do not hijack another member's thread.)
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