What is v5

[Martyn Dale]

You mention that in order to have such opt ins you need to make it clear that you are using their emails for other purposes. Please direct me to where on your forum it says that to have an account there they accept mailings. I could not see any such disclaimer.

[Kylesw555]

I don't remember stating that I have that disclaimer on my forum, no-one mentioned any EU Law to me prior to this and this is something that I am now looking to do.

Your solution seems good although it sounds like members can read this although still be able to make an account without having to give us their E-Mail Addresses, should we have the option to have required fields in the extra fields you speak of then this would be a solution to the problem.

[Martyn Dale]

Your use of the word anymore suggests this is a practice you already which is why I asked for the current example.

Due to the ToS related nature of this issue I will pass this off to Patrick to ensure I do not misspeak.

[Kylesw555]

Apologies, I was referring to the fact that an E-Mail Address viewable by admins is already part of the required registration process of my forum (and all forums).

[Martyn Dale]

But the ToS already does prohibit the harvesting of personal data since it is accessible This is nothing new with v5. Any opting in and out is with us. Just because the information is there in the profile, it does not mean it is usable for purposes outside of the forum.

This is not us being difficult, that is protection of users pushed by various legislation.

I have let Patrick know about this thread so he should be able to clarify further

[moonbeam]

Aug 7, 2012 17:10:25 GMT -8 Kylesw555 said:

Apologies, I was referring to the fact that an E-Mail Address viewable by admins is already part of the required registration process of my forum (and all forums).

This is not quite correct. They must provide an email in order to register. It is NOT required to be viewable by admins.


My personal feeling is that if I were to be told I *must* provide such info or not be a member, I'd not be a member. If it's something I'm really interested in, I'd "opt in" but to be told I have to is a no-go for me.

[Izaya Orihara]

I'm probably going to get my head chopped off for jumping in here.

Reading through this thread- I can understand what's going on for the most part, but the last few posts have made me confused. I deal with a lot of spam-artists and trolls on my board myself. In fact I just banned one the other day on one of my sites. While I can understand the email will be hidden, am I still allowed to search by IP, ban IP's, and tell the difference?

Most people come to rp boards with a little bit of expectation not to have a board over run with internet trolls and people who aren't really wanted. Normally I can tell by familiar emails that register who they are, if I've seen them before by happenstance, but are IP's going to be wrapped together? And what if they make another global login account? To wrap things together- are the two IP's going to be shown as one and the same, or are they going to be separated?

If we ban one 'global login', are we banning the other as well, or is a separate process? I mean I'm confused highly with what's going on, but that's the law and the internet for you. Two things that really shouldn't go together until they understand each other. I'm not looking for any specifics by the way- just asking if we can still look at IP's and tell if they are the same, even if the global login is different.

[Martyn Dale]

You have all the same banning abilities, in fact its easier.

From a members profile, there will be a button. That button will allow you to do things such as "Show all members with the same IP address", "Show all members on the same global account" etc. Theres no need to go copy the IP, paste it in the admin search, then ban both accounts etc

With regards to banning global logins, its separate, same as it would be for 2 different email addresses.

[Rick Ace]

Can we see IPs?

[NSX05]

Aug 4, 2012 8:44:58 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

You still have all the same functionality regarding IP Addresses that you currently do (just like emails). You can search by IP, Ban by IP (in multiple ways), and we even added functionality since now you can see multiple accounts by IP.

I assume so.

[Rick Ace]

Functionality? Can we actually see the IP Address?

[NSX05]

Seeing the IP addresses is a function that we currently have, thus I don't see why not.

[Ryan Roos]

I'll try to explain this again.

You can warn members from any post or profile.

You can disable an account directly from any post or profile. Including adding an expiration date and notes.

You can ban by Username, Global ID (email Address), IP Addresses (including wildcards and ranges), Including adding an expiration date and notes.

New in v5, you can search by IP address with 3 options. You can search other Posts, Threads or Members with the same IP Address. It's all very automated and easy. It will return a nice list of posts, threads, or members.

Attached is a screen capture of the ban dialog and ban page. This screenshot is actually out of date. I'm at home and can't access the newest version, but you'll get the idea.

When you go to ban someone from any post or profile you are presented with 3 options. Ban member's username, ban member's global ID, ban member's IP address. Add a note and expiration if you want.

In the second image you can see the ban page. Some users were banned by Global ID from their profiles or posts. You can see an expiration date. That actual pops out a little calendar to assist you. You can see the ban by IP address (I did edit that IP address for the shot, that is a fake IP example). You can see the notes.

As I said this is slightly outdated. But you should understand that we have improved the ban system significantly including what you do with IP Addresses specifically.

[Ryan Roos]

I forgot to show you an example of a user who has been banned only by username. You have the option on the ban page to ban them by Global ID (email) or IP Address if you choose. Check out this attachment.

Nearly every user will appear this way. The reason it didn't look like this in my first attachment is because fakeuser isn't real and didn't have a Global ID to ban, where as patrick is real and has a Global ID. So you can see the difference between someone who has updated and someone who hasn't too.

Edit: Just clicking (ban) will ban them automatically. You don't have to spend any time finding their Global ID or IP. It auto inserts it for you. ;D

[Shorty]

Thanks Ryan! That's actually very helpful I think. Being able to go back and ban additional things later if need be.