Where are all the coders?

[Andrew.McGivery]

Feb 27, 2011 13:40:27 GMT -8 Bdm said:

It also might be worth mentioning that there is a lot less demand for coding and design based PB forums now than there was before. Every since PBS monopolized coding/design it has been hard for coding/design forums to flourish.

That's just my opinion and it may or may not be accurate.

Accurate. It kind of chased away ALOT of talent from PB in my opinion.

[Kim]

Feb 27, 2011 13:40:27 GMT -8 Bdm said:

It also might be worth mentioning that there is a lot less demand for coding and design based PB forums now than there was before. Ever since PBS monopolized coding/design it has been hard for coding/design forums to flourish.

That's just my opinion and it may or may not be accurate.

I totally agree.

[Bdm]

Feb 27, 2011 15:13:13 GMT -8 Andrew.McGivery said:

Feb 27, 2011 13:40:27 GMT -8 Bdm said:

It also might be worth mentioning that there is a lot less demand for coding and design based PB forums now than there was before. Every since PBS monopolized coding/design it has been hard for coding/design forums to flourish.

That's just my opinion and it may or may not be accurate.

Accurate. It kind of chased away ALOT of talent from PB in my opinion.

And I feel like it's being ignored. I've brought it up here several times and it has just been shrugged off.

I also think that PBS is the reason a lot of coding and design boards recently (in the last couple of years) have closed down

[Wormopolis]

It depends on what you foresaw your coding/design board to become. I had no real intentions of WC becoming anything big. I started it so I had a central place to store all my codes and make them easier to get to instead of the multiple testing sites I was using for development. I do some development right on WC sometimes so anyone curious can see various stages. Including a beta testing area for larger projects that certain people can access for feedback.

I have been asked numerous times to have my forum revamped to bring in more people, but Its not that important that I have a LOT of people on my forum everyday. People can choose to inhabit, sure, but the mainfocus was just a library. I can see I have a lot of visits everyday of just people going in and grabbing the latest versions of codes from the database. Occasionally they make an account to ask a question on one of my codes or even someone elses. There have been MANY people that I never hear from again - and I consider those people to be content with whatever help I could offer.

Other parts of my board (the withering graphics section and the forum review section) are overseen by anyone who was interested in the opportunity to take on those areas, and I for the most part let them do the work to ensure their success.

I dont know how PBS has intentionally monopolized the coding support.. it just worked out that way because of the people that were already here helping like Jordan, Eton and Todge that never seemed to waiver.

[Bennett 🚀]

Feb 27, 2011 13:40:27 GMT -8 Bdm said:

It also might be worth mentioning that there is a lot less demand for coding and design based PB forums now than there was before. Ever since PBS monopolized coding/design it has been hard for coding/design forums to flourish.

That's just my opinion and it may or may not be accurate.

What do you mean by monopolizing? Just they have the main place for it? Or they don't allow it? o.o -confused-

[Kim]

He means that they have a place for it, so members don't really bother with coding and design forums so much.

[Andrew.McGivery]

it was mostly because PBS's main focus(whether they admit it or not) became coding/graphics support. All new pb people came looking for code or graphic help and saw it on support, so they wouldn't look any further, half of them not even knowing that there were other alternatives. This cut off member and activity flow to design/coding forums, which ultimately killed them off.

Or at least thats my summarized version of it

[MainHeader]

Feb 28, 2011 3:48:33 GMT -8 Andrew.McGivery said:

it was mostly because PBS's main focus(whether they admit it or not) became coding/graphics support. All new pb people came looking for code or graphic help and saw it on support, so they wouldn't look any further, half of them not even knowing that there were other alternatives. This cut off member and activity flow to design/coding forums, which ultimately killed them off.

Or at least thats my summarized version of it

[Ellie]

Feb 28, 2011 3:48:33 GMT -8 Andrew.McGivery said:

it was mostly because PBS's main focus(whether they admit it or not) became coding/graphics support. All new pb people came looking for code or graphic help and saw it on support, so they wouldn't look any further, half of them not even knowing that there were other alternatives. This cut off member and activity flow to design/coding forums, which ultimately killed them off.

Or at least thats my summarized version of it

Well, in some aspects this does help people, yes it does cut off the flow of activity on other sites but then you find that some users of proboards get frustrated that they have to look for a certain code on a certain site, when they could just direct themselves to one forum and have all the codes they need at their finger tips. And another thing to add is, some codes are only allowed to be posted here so we can't put the blame solely on proboards support for having all the codes here, it does have allot to do with where the coders want their codes to be posted. It's much like how we shop, you wouldn't want to go to five different stores for five different items when you could get them all in one place. But then, that is only how I see it and personally for me it has made allot of my coding experience easier and less stressful.

[Chris]

Ellie: That'd be true if this didn't exist: proboards.ifcode.com/

Plus, codes are kept uniquely to the other design forums. I have well over 200 codes, with less than 15 of those here. Some are duplicates of things here, sure, but I guarantee quite a few unique ones aren't.

[Bdm]

Analogy: A developing city has several family-owned or otherwise small/medium-sized businesses. Walmart decides to put a store in the developing city and now the family-owned businesses lose customers and slow down or even close down completely.

The pro to this is that consumers have an easier time finding what they want. The con is that the family-owned businesses lose their consumers and inevitably close.

That's an analogy that I like to compare to this situation. I'm not trying to flame or start a protest against PBS - these are just my educated opinions.

[Wormopolis]

that means there will be a website soon of pictures of weird people looking for codes on PBS. lookout Todge!

[Chris]

Feb 25, 2011 2:12:08 GMT -8 Peter said:

Feb 24, 2011 17:29:30 GMT -8 Michael said:

Feb 19, 2011 16:42:50 GMT -8 Webworldx said:

Speaking of unique - Peter, how's your new mod going? Fixed all the bugs that we came up with all those months ago?

I think so

Been busy so haven't had time to do much, not sure if I will. Should I release it here as open source people to continue, or just wait until I eventually fine time?

Much respect to you Peter, you were my coding guru and tutor even if you never knew it. Your codes were my extra credit homework studies with exciting usage of emerging browser technologies and techniques such as globalStorage (first time I ever saw it used anywhere, period), treeWalker, closures, etc.

I'd be very interested at a peek of any ongoing projects you may have ;D

[Peter]

Mar 1, 2011 17:29:47 GMT -8 Chris said:

Much respect to you Peter, you were my coding guru and tutor even if you never knew it. Your codes were my extra credit homework studies with exciting usage of emerging browser technologies and techniques such as globalStorage (first time I ever saw it used anywhere, period), treeWalker, closures, etc.

I'd be very interested at a peek of any ongoing projects you may have ;D

Hey Eton,

Thanks

I do try to use things that other ProBoards programmers don't use or have even heard off, and the sole reason for that was to become a better programmer, and to open other programmers minds here to doing the same (which I kinda have only seen from you and your codes).

But yes, feel free to look at the source, it's completely open, and I welcome ideas, and suggestions to the code base from anyone.

code.google.com/p/proboardstrophies/

Note: Anyone thinking they can use this code as it is would be wise not too, while there are no big bugs, it's far from finished.

[Snakeair]

Feb 28, 2011 3:48:33 GMT -8 Andrew.McGivery said:

it was mostly because PBS's main focus(whether they admit it or not) became coding/graphics support. All new pb people came looking for code or graphic help and saw it on support, so they wouldn't look any further, half of them not even knowing that there were other alternatives. This cut off member and activity flow to design/coding forums, which ultimately killed them off.

Or at least that's my summarized version of it

I remember the day when this section was created on here. I was a global moderator on PB at that time. Sometimes Craig even posted in the coding support section. lol

So many people was requesting for basic codes all the time in support section that we was starting to sound like a broken record suggesting to either visit this "insert coding forum" to get the code or request it at this site. Sometimes Craig if he was not that far behind in the support section would do some coding for people but it's never a 10 minute job. It's bad business to send clients to another site to get help. They come to the support forum to get help on there forum or request certain things, why send them to another site when they would feel comfortable getting help on the official support site from the expert helpers, moderators and staff?

Adding this coding section and design section sorta made Proboards one giant hot spot to get support, request codes, find codes, get images created...etc This is what a support forum should be anyways. SSD was freaking awesome back in the day but not everyone will keep at it and tend to loose interest in there Proboards project that they had started. (Also giving the project to someone who was not fit to take over)

Like me, i left my position as a global moderator on here because i wanted to focus time on another hobby that i was getting into. I spent countless hours on here helping people and most of the time not getting one thank you but i kept doing it because i just like to help people. In fact i still help people out on a webmaster forum i'm a super moderator on. lol

I'm sure with PB5 coming around sometime before the world ends, we might see some old school coders come back and see if they would like to get back into creating codes or correcting poorly coded ones.

Good lord, i've been up for 18 hours. Time to get some sleep.